Friday, March 30, 2012
MSDE and Enterprise Manager Trouble
ry to register the database with Enterprise Manager, Enterprise Manager doesn't see the instance. Similarly, my program that uses SQLDMO.DLL to enumerate all servers does not see the MSDE instance. Both the database, my program, and Enterprise Manager are
running locally on the same machine.
This is a development box, and I have had to uninstall MSDE by hand several times by removing registry keys manually. I suspect that my problem is that I have deleted a key that I needed. Does anyone have any clues? Thanks in advance.
Rob Reagan
MSDE with Sp3a or MSDE Release A installs by default without network
connections enabled and will not advertise itself on the network. You can
still register the instance in Enterprise Manager by typing the name in the
textbox during registration.
You can install MSDE with network connections, see the "Customizing Desktop
Engine Setup.exe" topic in Books Online for details. You can also enable
network connections after installation with (I think) svrnetcn.exe in the
Tools\Bin directory, but I have no MSDe instance to check that at the
moment.
Jacco Schalkwijk
SQL Server MVP
"Rob Reagan" <RobReagan@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AEC24187-ADA9-48D1-ADC3-837FEE031CEB@.microsoft.com...
> I have installed an MSDE instance on my PC. I have used both the setup.exe
program and installed MSDE with the merge modules. Everything works fine - I
am able to programmatically connect to the database and execute all of my
statements. However, when I try to register the database with Enterprise
Manager, Enterprise Manager doesn't see the instance. Similarly, my program
that uses SQLDMO.DLL to enumerate all servers does not see the MSDE
instance. Both the database, my program, and Enterprise Manager are running
locally on the same machine.
> This is a development box, and I have had to uninstall MSDE by hand
several times by removing registry keys manually. I suspect that my problem
is that I have deleted a key that I needed. Does anyone have any clues?
Thanks in advance.
> Rob Reagan
Wednesday, March 28, 2012
MSDE 2000 SP4 Merge Modules
merge modules. I downloaded the SP4 of the desktop engine from the microsoft
site. When downloaded and extracted, there is a folder on my machine
\MSDE\MSM which has all of the merge modules. I've noticed that the SP4
release has 3 new mm's: msxmlsql32.msm, msxmlsqlr32.msm, and qfepatch.msm.
In the InstallShield DevStudio 9.01 IDE, I check the 3 new mm's. When I go
and build I receive the following error: "Error retrieving dependency
MSXMLSQL1033.996A3FBA_B9BC_4189_9DB1_2B3C86B526BC: 1033 of C:\Program
Files\InstallShield\DevStudio 9\Modules\i386\MSXMLSQL32.MSM". Anyone know
why I'm getting this error?
Thanks.
Joanne
hi Joanne
jbayog wrote:
> I have a MSDE 2000 InstallShield install package that I've created
> using the merge modules. I downloaded the SP4 of the desktop engine
> from the microsoft site. When downloaded and extracted, there is a
> folder on my machine \MSDE\MSM which has all of the merge modules.
> I've noticed that the SP4 release has 3 new mm's: msxmlsql32.msm,
> msxmlsqlr32.msm, and qfepatch.msm. In the InstallShield DevStudio
> 9.01 IDE, I check the 3 new mm's. When I go and build I receive the
> following error: "Error retrieving dependency
> MSXMLSQL1033.996A3FBA_B9BC_4189_9DB1_2B3C86B526BC: 1033 of C:\Program
> Files\InstallShield\DevStudio 9\Modules\i386\MSXMLSQL32.MSM". Anyone
> know why I'm getting this error?
no idea, never used MSDE merge modules, always installed using the setup.exe
boostrap installer.... but have you tried modifying the order of
installation?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...stsql_8yeq.asp
has not been updated (as BOL in general) at sp4 level, so no additional info
about those new merge modules seems available..
BTW, the MSDE readme file, at point 4.2 MSDE 2000 SP4 File location
specifies:
"Note Merge modules are not supported for new installations. They are
provided in SP4 for servicing instances of MSDE 2000 that were previously
installed using merge modules."
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.14.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.59.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||I don't know much about MSDE and am just doing some research on it as of
this week.
However, I cam across this link yesterday which might be useful:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/2000/sp4.asp
Here is an extract from the site:
"Users who have an existing instance of MSDE 2000 must know how their
instance of MSDE 2000 was installed to know how to update it. In particular,
you must know the original package name for your instance of MSDE 2000. To
determine the original package name, see the article How To Identify Which
MSI File Was Used for an Existing MSDE Installation in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base."
"jbayog" <jbayog@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8D058312-1747-4A51-A100-FE79DC32C086@.microsoft.com...
>I have a MSDE 2000 InstallShield install package that I've created using
>the
> merge modules. I downloaded the SP4 of the desktop engine from the
> microsoft
> site. When downloaded and extracted, there is a folder on my machine
> \MSDE\MSM which has all of the merge modules. I've noticed that the SP4
> release has 3 new mm's: msxmlsql32.msm, msxmlsqlr32.msm, and
> qfepatch.msm.
> In the InstallShield DevStudio 9.01 IDE, I check the 3 new mm's. When I
> go
> and build I receive the following error: "Error retrieving dependency
> MSXMLSQL1033.996A3FBA_B9BC_4189_9DB1_2B3C86B526BC: 1033 of C:\Program
> Files\InstallShield\DevStudio 9\Modules\i386\MSXMLSQL32.MSM". Anyone know
> why I'm getting this error?
> Thanks.
> Joanne
|||Thanks so much for your help. This an existing MSDE 2000 InstallShield
install package and we have a client who wants to upgrade to SP4 so that is
why I'm trying to build an upgrade for them. I'd like to get rid of using
the MSDE 2000 merge modules per Microsoft's comment. I got it to build by
editing the msxmlsql32.msm and the msxmlsqlr32.msm using the Orca tool. I
think there is a problem with the rows in the ModuleDependency table. I
guess I have the option of building it without these two mm's as our database
application doesn't use xml. I'm a little apprehensive of doing this only
because there is no documentation on these new mm's. I might post to
InstallShield also. Again thanks.
Joanne
Joanne
"Andrea Montanari" wrote:
> hi Joanne
> jbayog wrote:
> no idea, never used MSDE merge modules, always installed using the setup.exe
> boostrap installer.... but have you tried modifying the order of
> installation?
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...stsql_8yeq.asp
> has not been updated (as BOL in general) at sp4 level, so no additional info
> about those new merge modules seems available..
> BTW, the MSDE readme file, at point 4.2 MSDE 2000 SP4 File location
> specifies:
> "Note Merge modules are not supported for new installations. They are
> provided in SP4 for servicing instances of MSDE 2000 that were previously
> installed using merge modules."
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.14.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.59.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>
>
Monday, March 26, 2012
MSDE 2000 Release A does not support merge modules
application setup. I went through MSDE Bootstrapper Toolkit and apparently it
is still in beta.
How would I distribute my application? Is there any other way of embedding
MSDE 2000 Release A with setup package?
Rats, I get to pass the news you won't like again :-)
Every option I've seen/tried to install the MSDE silently has issues. We've
given up and just ship a setup.ini file that's appropriately modified to
suit our requirements and then just get the end user to run the setup.exe
program. Since doing so, we've gone from tons of setup issues to almost
none.
The situation improves greatly with SQL Express but that's not today.
HTH,
Greg Low [MVP]
MSDE Manager SQL Tools
www.whitebearconsulting.com
"Job Lot" <JobLot@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:218E1FE0-C55A-41F1-B011-6D98799B3815@.microsoft.com...
> MSDE 2000 Release A does not support merge modules to embed MSDE with
> custom
> application setup. I went through MSDE Bootstrapper Toolkit and apparently
> it
> is still in beta.
> How would I distribute my application? Is there any other way of embedding
> MSDE 2000 Release A with setup package?
|||Hello,
Personally, I launch msde msi file with msiexec /i. (in the
installUISequence)
I have changed the msi from msde to have the password for sa and all is
fine.
Marc Allard
Allcomp
"Job Lot" <JobLot@.discussions.microsoft.com> a crit dans le message de
news: 218E1FE0-C55A-41F1-B011-6D98799B3815@.microsoft.com...
> MSDE 2000 Release A does not support merge modules to embed MSDE with
> custom
> application setup. I went through MSDE Bootstrapper Toolkit and apparently
> it
> is still in beta.
> How would I distribute my application? Is there any other way of embedding
> MSDE 2000 Release A with setup package?
sql
Wednesday, March 21, 2012
MSDE 2000 and merge modules
I have a vb.net desktop application that uses msde 2000 for its databasing. I am trying to create a setup file using the output of my desktop application and the msde 2000 merge modules in order to install my own build plus an instance of msde 2000.
The setup runs properly and then asks me to restart my machine. After the restart, however, there is no such instance running on my machine. I am adding the following internal properties to my msi file using ocra:
SQLMSDESelected 1
SqlInstanceName Midas
SqlSaPwd Password1
SqlSecurityMode SQL
SqlDataDir C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL$Midas\Data
SqlProgramDir C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server
This should create an instance of msde on my machine but when I try to connect using enterprize manager or query analizer (I connect to <<machinename>>\Midas), then I get the standard can not connect error.
I am at my witt's end and would really appreciate any help.
Thanks.
Hi,
maybe you could help me....
I'm trying to create a setup file using the VS2003 "Setup Project" and MSDE2000SP4 Merge Modules (editing properties with ORCA).
But when I run the installation file, it shows the following message:
"The Error Code is 2920".
Do you know how to fix that ?
Thanks,
Jo?o Paulo.
sqlMSDE 2000 and merge modules
I have a vb.net desktop application that uses msde 2000 for its databasing. I am trying to create a setup file using the output of my desktop application and the msde 2000 merge modules in order to install my own build plus an instance of msde 2000.
The setup runs properly and then asks me to restart my machine. After the restart, however, there is no such instance running on my machine. I am adding the following internal properties to my msi file using ocra:
SQLMSDESelected 1
SqlInstanceName Midas
SqlSaPwd Password1
SqlSecurityMode SQL
SqlDataDir C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL$Midas\Data
SqlProgramDir C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server
This should create an instance of msde on my machine but when I try to connect using enterprize manager or query analizer (I connect to <<machinename>>\Midas), then I get the standard can not connect error.
I am at my witt's end and would really appreciate any help.
Thanks.
Hi,
maybe you could help me....
I'm trying to create a setup file using the VS2003 "Setup Project" and MSDE2000SP4 Merge Modules (editing properties with ORCA).
But when I run the installation file, it shows the following message:
"The Error Code is 2920".
Do you know how to fix that ?
Thanks,
Jo?o Paulo.