MSDE 2000A EULA / SBS 2003 Web Edition

Hi. I'm a bit confused and wonder whether someone of you can give me some
more information on this.
The EULA for MSDE 2000A states that you cannot use MSDE for hosting
services. Does anyone know what this mean?
I'm running an ASP.Net application and would like to use MSDE as the backend
database. Does this fall into this category?
Or does it mean that if I'm an ISP, I'm not allowed to offer MSDE as a
feature on my hosting packages?
Also, it says that you're not allowed to install any applications on SBS
2003 Web Edition. Does MSDE fall into this category?
Thanks very much for your help!
Martin
Hi Martin,
If you plan on using Webserver I think you need the full version of SQL. As
for SBS webserver 2003 I think you mean Windows Webserver 2003, which is a
lower priced version of windows server with a limited feature set optimized
for webhosting and reducing the cost of server to make it more competitive
in that market place. If you are a programmer look into either the ISV
program or the Action pack program which will help you out with the software
required to setup the development environment.
Regards,
Jeff Loucks
Available Technology
Solutions For Professionals
www.availabletechnology.com
"Martin Feuersteiner" <theintrepidfox@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u$$6SFOcEHA.212@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi. I'm a bit confused and wonder whether someone of you can give me some
> more information on this.
> The EULA for MSDE 2000A states that you cannot use MSDE for hosting
> services. Does anyone know what this mean?
> I'm running an ASP.Net application and would like to use MSDE as the
backend
> database. Does this fall into this category?
> Or does it mean that if I'm an ISP, I'm not allowed to offer MSDE as a
> feature on my hosting packages?
> Also, it says that you're not allowed to install any applications on SBS
> 2003 Web Edition. Does MSDE fall into this category?
> Thanks very much for your help!
> Martin
>
>
>

MSDE 2000 shipped to the Republic of Czech

Are there any export restrictions, etc. for MSDE 2000 in
the Republic of Czech? In the EULA for MSDE 200 it states
that in most cases local laws applies. I went to the
Exporting page for Microsoft, but could not find anything
definitive. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
CCS
Our Czech firm wide uses MSDE 2000 in the Czech Republic and Poland.
I do not know about any local restriction for MSDE 2000 in the Czech
Republic. We
use it according to the Microsoft EULA.
IH
"CCSGrayTech" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> pse v diskusnm
prspevku news:2ce201c47e2a$7a9b2290$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> Are there any export restrictions, etc. for MSDE 2000 in
> the Republic of Czech? In the EULA for MSDE 200 it states
> that in most cases local laws applies. I went to the
> Exporting page for Microsoft, but could not find anything
> definitive. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> CCS

MSDE 2000 license

After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about MSDE
license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end for
our product on customer’s desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
running Windows Server 2000/2003?
I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
towards the CAL license requirements.
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"Stan" <Stan@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6DC9496-49DF-44AE-8D52-6017F6D05785@.microsoft.com...
> After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about
> MSDE
> license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end
> for
> our product on customer's desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
> running Windows Server 2000/2003?
|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
> you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
> connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
> towards the CAL license requirements.
>
MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and a
built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5 concurrent
workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a license for the
management tools. If you can live with these restrictions then you can use
MSDE as a backend for your application.
As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
David
|||Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to distribute
MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
Thanks,
Mike C.
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>
|||I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
just a few people.
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>
|||"Michael C#" <xyz@.abcdef.com> wrote in message
news:T6RUd.5566$kO5.4576@.fe12.lga...
> Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to
> distribute MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
>
MSDE used to be distributed only as a part of other products, like Visual
Studio, .NET Framework SDK, Web Matrix etc. But now it's available from
download directly. See http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp.
It appears that you need to register if you didn't receive MSDE as part of
another application. But anyone interested in MSDE should buy the Developer
Edition of SQL Server. It's $50, it includes MSDE and all the SQL Server
tools. So you can develop against SQL Server and possibly deploy on MSDE.
David
|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
> The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
> rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
> just a few people.
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
>
Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small web
applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
David
|||"David Browne" wrote:

> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small web
> applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
> technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
> application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
> application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
> David
>
>
May somebody from Microsoft confirm this please?
Stan

MSDE 2000 license

After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about MSDE
license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end for
our product on customerâ's desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
running Windows Server 2000/2003?I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
towards the CAL license requirements.
--
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"Stan" <Stan@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6DC9496-49DF-44AE-8D52-6017F6D05785@.microsoft.com...
> After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about
> MSDE
> license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end
> for
> our product on customer's desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
> running Windows Server 2000/2003?|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
> you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
> connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
> towards the CAL license requirements.
>
MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and a
built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5 concurrent
workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a license for the
management tools. If you can live with these restrictions then you can use
MSDE as a backend for your application.
As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
David|||Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to distribute
MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
Thanks,
Mike C.
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
>> you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
>> connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
>> towards the CAL license requirements.
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>|||I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
just a few people.
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
--
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
>> you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
>> connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
>> towards the CAL license requirements.
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>|||"Michael C#" <xyz@.abcdef.com> wrote in message
news:T6RUd.5566$kO5.4576@.fe12.lga...
> Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to
> distribute MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
>
MSDE used to be distributed only as a part of other products, like Visual
Studio, .NET Framework SDK, Web Matrix etc. But now it's available from
download directly. See http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp.
It appears that you need to register if you didn't receive MSDE as part of
another application. But anyone interested in MSDE should buy the Developer
Edition of SQL Server. It's $50, it includes MSDE and all the SQL Server
tools. So you can develop against SQL Server and possibly deploy on MSDE.
David|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
> The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
> rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
> just a few people.
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
>
Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small web
applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
David|||"David Browne" wrote:
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
> > The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
> > rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
> > just a few people.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
> >
> Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small web
> applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
> technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
> application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
> application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
> David
>
>
May somebody from Microsoft confirm this please?
Stan

MSDE 2000 license

After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about MSDE
license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end fo
r
our product on customer’s desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
running Windows Server 2000/2003?I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
towards the CAL license requirements.
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"Stan" <Stan@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E6DC9496-49DF-44AE-8D52-6017F6D05785@.microsoft.com...
> After careful reading the MSDE 2000 EULA I still have a question about
> MSDE
> license. May we use/distribute MSDE free of charge as a database back-end
> for
> our product on customer's desktops running Windows 2000/XP and servers
> running Windows Server 2000/2003?|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I believe it is free for a single user environment. I don't "believe"
> you can use this as a backend database where multiple users
> connect to the same sql server instance without it counting
> towards the CAL license requirements.
>
MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and a
built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5 concurrent
workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a license for the
management tools. If you can live with these restrictions then you can use
MSDE as a backend for your application.
As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
David|||Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to distribute
MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
Thanks,
Mike C.
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>|||I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
just a few people.
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
2005 Microsoft MVP C#
Robbe Morris
http://www.robbemorris.com
http://www.learncsharp.net/home/listings.aspx
"David Browne" <davidbaxterbrowne no potted meat@.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:%23YVC7FgHFHA.400@.TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Th9n0fHFHA.3648@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> MSDE is free. You can use it as the back end of a multi user application
> within its built-in limitations. There is a limit of 2g per database and
> a built-in query governor to reduce performance when more than 5
> concurrent workloads hit the server. Also MSDE does not come with a
> license for the management tools. If you can live with these restrictions
> then you can use MSDE as a backend for your application.
> As you application grows and needs to scale to more users, you can upgrade
> MSDE to the full version of SQL Server.
> David
>|||"Michael C#" <xyz@.abcdef.com> wrote in message
news:T6RUd.5566$kO5.4576@.fe12.lga...
> Didn't they used to require that you register with MS in order to
> distribute MSDE with your apps? Is that still a condition?
>
MSDE used to be distributed only as a part of other products, like Visual
Studio, .NET Framework SDK, Web Matrix etc. But now it's available from
download directly. See http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp.
It appears that you need to register if you didn't receive MSDE as part of
another application. But anyone interested in MSDE should buy the Developer
Edition of SQL Server. It's $50, it includes MSDE and all the SQL Server
tools. So you can develop against SQL Server and possibly deploy on MSDE.
David|||"Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I wasn't dead on regarding licensing. However, I had the right idea.
> The various links about licensing and performance would appear to
> rule ouf the use of MSDE in a multi-user environment of more than
> just a few people.
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/default.asp
>
Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small web
applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
David|||"David Browne" wrote:

> "Robbe Morris [C# MVP]" <info@.turnkeytools.com> wrote in message
> news:O6A$JzgHFHA.4048@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Indeed. MSDE is indended for small client-server deployments and small we
b
> applications. It gives the developer the freedom of not having to make a
> technology choice based on money. Just code to SQL Server. If your
> application is small enough you can deploy on MSDE for free. If your
> application is larger, buy and deploy on SQL Server.
> David
>
>
May somebody from Microsoft confirm this please?
Stan